I'm a very happy customer,avg is 197, 17 ball speed and I seen a video from bowler x of the incredible ball, and the big bro. I bought them 2 months ago, and went to a tournament in largo FL, very happy with the results and the REV'S I rolled with these balls, won brackets and team came in 3rd, my fellow bowlers asked are those new storm balls, huh WHAT, Heck no, their Swag, and of course I had to show them the line up of the entire balls, so happy today I purchased 2 more swagger and the joker, I'm am so FREAKING HAPPY TO TELL YOU GUYS, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, Before you know it , I will have given all my hammers away even though I bought them before EBI ,went to BRUNSWICK, I'm going to be a dedicated Swagger ball man, thank you very much guys